This podcast features a discussion with Dave Wild from Ithaca College and Jill Forester from Dickinson College about leveraging Artificial Intelligence (AI) in smaller higher education institutions. They share their backgrounds [01:01 ] and discuss the creation of a roadmap to guide institutions in adopting AI [04:13 ]. Both colleges are actively engaging their campuses through initiatives like presidential working groups, AI "pop-in" workshops to educate staff and faculty [09:58 ], pilot projects, and AI exploration labs [11:10 , 17:17 ]. The conversation covers the challenges of keeping up with rapid AI developments from vendors [13:00 ], the importance of involving students in AI projects [19:06 ], and addressing ethical concerns like data privacy and bias [22:16 ]. They offer advice to other CIOs, emphasizing agility, piloting initiatives [25:44 , 26:59 ], and exploring the potential of agentic AI [28:22 ]. The discussion also touches upon leadership, fostering innovation [37:38 ], personal methods for relaxation [41:17 ], and the evolving role of the integrative CIO in higher education [43:46 ].