In a conversation with the board director and former diplomat, two McKinsey experts offer advice on how boards can guide their organizations through volatile times. Assisting management in navigating today’s geopolitical complexity has become one of boards’ most important and difficult tasks. In this episode of the Inside the Strategy Room podcast, Ziad Haider, Celia Huber, and Jon Huntsman Jr. discuss how boards can address this challenge. Huntsman spent nearly two decades in US public service at the state, national, and international levels in roles including deputy assistant secretary of commerce for Asia and US ambassador to China, Singapore, and most recently, Russia. This is an edited transcript of their conversation.